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		<title>Martingale Roulette</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 08:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It surprises me a little in this day and age where so much information is at our fingertips, that costly misconceptions remain alive and well. The contention that Martingale Roulette is a sure fired way to make money is among them. Maybe the problem is finding the truth amongst all the garbage &#8211; the claims [...]]]></description>
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<p>It surprises me a little in this day and age where so much information is at our fingertips, that costly misconceptions remain alive and well.</p>
<h2>The contention that Martingale Roulette is a sure fired way to make money is among them.</h2>
<p>Maybe the problem is finding the truth amongst all the garbage &#8211; the claims that it is a system that actually works.</p>
<p>We wrote an article on the shortcomings of <a href="http://www.livedealer.org/news/live-roulette-martingale-system.htm">using the Martingale to play roulette</a> &#8211; whether playing at a traditional casino, or live online casino last year and nothing&#8217;s changed since then&#8230;including the belief of many players that they can use to crack the game of roulette.  This post is the result of an exchange just today with a player who vehemently maintains it works&#8230; as it happens, so does he &#8211; 9 to 5 every day to fund his use of the system!</p>
<p>So here it is again in really simple English&#8230;the dot point Martingale facts that will save roulette players a lot of cash and pain&#8230;</p>
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<li>Martingale systems work on the premise that you double your stake on successive losing, even money roulette bets so that when you eventually win, your payout covers all previous losing bets and leaves you with a profit equal to the original (first) bet amount.</li>
<li>Promoters of the system contend losing streaks can&#8217;t last forever so eventually you have to win.  Right?</li>
<li>Wrong! for 2 very good reasons&#8230;<br />
1 &#8211; raising bets exponentially means even a small losing streak can put your required bet above the table limit so that you are unable to recover previous losses; and<br />
2 &#8211; even in the absence of table limit restrictions, each spin is an independent event and it has been proven mathematically that using martingale will still not give the player a long term house edge.</li>
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<p>Of course the big fat elephant sitting in the corner that is the giveaway on this debate is this&#8230;</p>
<h2>Casinos will let you play Martingale to your heart&#8217;s content</h2>
<p>Surely that tells you something.  <a href="http://www.livedealer.org/liveblackjack/blackjack21-tutorial/advantage-players-series.htm">Advantage blackjack players</a> who can effectively count have been asked to leave the premises; expert roulette players who have identified an exploitable <a href="http://livedealer.org/blog/2010/02/roulette-wheel-bias/">wheel bias</a> and won big as a result will also be shown the door.</p>
<p>But Martingale players! They&#8217;ll be given free cocktails, nibbles and the VIP treatment to keep them at the table for as long as possible.</p>
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		<title>Streaks do happen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a friend who is an avid gambler and who subscribes to a bunch of  casino magazines. He told me the other day about an article in one of his magazines that detailed how a  baccarat dealer somewhere in an American casino had dealt 27 consecutive wins to the Player hand. Amazed at the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.livedealer.org/casinos/bluesquare.php" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-279" title="baccarat-streak" src="http://livedealer.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/baccarat-streak.png" alt="" width="256" height="180" /></a>I have a friend who is an avid gambler and who subscribes to a bunch of  casino magazines.</p>
<p>He told me the other day about an article in one of his magazines that detailed how a  baccarat dealer somewhere in an American casino had dealt 27 consecutive wins to the Player hand. Amazed at the probability of such an event I asked him to show me the article, which he happily agreed to do.</p>
<p>That was 3 weeks ago, and for one reason or another he has yet to produce the goods, but swears black and blue that this did in fact happen, 27 IS the number, and it is all recorded in print in a very reputable industry periodical.</p>
<p>If and when said magazine is furnished, I&#8217;ll do a follow-up piece and fill in the who&#8217;s, when&#8217;s, where&#8217;s and which source, but for the time being have to to be a little scant in this regard so apologies in advance.</p>
<p>Anyway, proceeding on the basis that somewhere in a reputable casino such a streak did in fact happen, I just wanted to ponder the astronomical odds of such an occurrence, as well as the obvious implications for certain systems out there that are touted as sure things.</p>
<p><strong>What are the odds?</strong></p>
<p>Let me just preface the following analysis with the caveat that I&#8217;m no game mathematician or maths genius and I&#8217;ll be applying what I learned 15 years ago in sixth form permutations and combinations class.  Mrs Arnott was a great teacher though and I aced probability, so I&#8217;m pretty confident I&#8217;ve got a good handle on it.</p>
<p>So the odds of the &#8216;Player&#8217; winning a distinct deal (according to the <a href="http://wizardofodds.com" target="_blank">wizard of odds</a>) is 0.446427.  The odds of the Player winning 2 hands in a row is the simple permutation &#8216;Player win AND Player win&#8217;, expressed mathematically as: -</p>
<p>0.446427 x 0.446427 = 0.1984.</p>
<p>The odds of the Player winning 3 hands in a row is simply 0.1984 x 0.446427 (or 0.446427 to the power 3) = 0.089</p>
<p>You get the idea right?   So the odds of 27 Player wins in a row is 0.446427 to the power of 27, or an incomprehensibly minuscule 1 chance in 2,862,449,084.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just call it 1 in 3 billion.</p>
<p>I think the odds of winning most standard lotteries is around the 1 in 3 million mark.  So to put this streak into perspective, it&#8217;s 1000 time more remote than winning a lottery.  Conversely, your chances of winning the lottery are a thousand times better than ever witnessing such a streak.</p>
<p><strong>Streaks do happen</strong></p>
<p>The other sobering lesson to take from this, is that enormous streaks happen. This one is a once in a lifer, but I&#8217;m sure a dozen or so consecutive hands has happened quite often.  In roulette terms, black or red winning streaks are common and have led to the undoing of many a faithful Martingale player.  Imagine starting with a $5 bet and doubling up each bet.  Let&#8217;s assume there&#8217;s no table limit, and you come up against a losing streak of 12 in a row.  Your 13th bet, which will put to $5 up if you win, will be $20,480.</p>
<p>In the very unlikely event that you hit a losing streak of 27 consecutive bets, your 28th will need to be just over $671 million dollars to put you $5 up.</p>
<p>Still want to play Martingale?</p>
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