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    Short answer LD is no ...
    Right, so just the one opportunity to get your bets on - before the deal starts.
    And just the one payout for each of the various bet types. No need for recalculations during the deal?

    Makes for a faster deal (and arguably less confusion) I guess.
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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    With an RTP 96-97%, the odds/payouts for the Main Bets must be significantly worse than payouts on the regular Baccarat tables (which have a theoretical return close to 99% for Banker or Player bets).

    eg. Main Bet, Player would be less than the even money you get on a regular baccarat table.

    Which begs the question, other than having a desire to place different baccarat bets (Suits & Colors or Totals), why would you play this table?
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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    the odds/payouts for the Main Bets must be significantly worse than payouts on the regular Baccarat tables
    Actually not so.

    In a 'regular' baccarat game,
    - a winning Player bet pays even money (2x),
    - a winning Banker bet pays 0.95 to 1 (1.95x)

    As you can see below, the payouts for these bets are actually higher on Bet On Baccarat.

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    With same win conditions, 3rd card rules etc, at first glance this would suggest this game should have a higher RTP. Yet is doesn't.

    The bigger house edge is produced from a slight but crucial rule change that Fester highlighted above...

    In case of Tie, you lose all you non-Tie main bets
    On the regular baccarat tables, Banker and Player bets push in the case of a Tie
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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    Couple of recorded hands...

    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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    Cheers LD for the vid of recorded hands & BetOn blog.

    A couple more details to add (now I've finally got back to the thread ),


    ... you find the same Playtech table at casino's without Bet On tables under a different moniker, with the more familiar limited betting options, normal payouts & no lose on Tie.

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    and back to my short answer is no response,

    Is it like Betgames' Bet on Baccarat in that:
    - payouts for the various bet types auto-recalculate during the course of the deal, and

    Playtech haven't actually specified the payouts in the help section and just refer you to your service provider. So in essence the casinos have the option of setting these to their preference, akin to when certain Evolution casinos raised the Tie payout.

    >> If you like a flutter on Tie note how the payout is higher on this table than elsewhere! <<


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ID:	6973 ... Tie odds here of 10.26

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    ..but its not just that casinos could potentially offer different payouts,


    >> the odds/payouts for the various bets do recalculate during the course of a shoe (just not during the deal).


    eg. same casino a little later than above, different shoe (approx same number of cards spent), Tie now pays 10.37, etc.


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    casinos have the option of setting these to their preference
    Interesting. Wonder if they will vary significantly from one casino to the next?

    bets do recalculate during the course of a shoe (just not during the deal)
    Also interesting...and well picked up!
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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