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    You going by the nick Player 78345 these days Fester?
    I'll try anything LD to stop 'majestic legends' ^ ^ or whatever grandiose name stalking me around the tables

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    ave anything to say about "not very random" results made by Shufflemaster ?
    No. I'm sure they're completely random. It's just some players prefer to play from a depleting shoe...even one with the cut card inserted mid-shoe to make it difficult/impossible to take advantage of a count.

    Logic doesn't necessarily play a part. The need to squeeze cards (for some baccarat players) is proof of that.

    There is more trust required with a Shufflemaster though. When you see a manual shuffle on the table you know that shoe is random.

    When you play a Shufflemaster you are trusting the machine is randomly shuffling. Just like when you play an RNG game you're trusting the computer program to generate a random outcome.

    For some players this is a leap of faith they're not willing to take.
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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    Thanks for saying what I was thinking LD.

    Goes in hand with your previous thread regarding cutting card shoe depth.


    I always remember seeing The Dealer ask the pit boss to check the position of cutting card, when she thought it had been placed too deep by the shuffler ... I wasn't trying to card count, honestly

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD View Post
    No. I'm sure they're completely random. It's just some players prefer to play from a depleting shoe...even one with the cut card inserted mid-shoe to make it difficult/impossible to take advantage of a count.

    Logic doesn't necessarily play a part. The need to squeeze cards (for some baccarat players) is proof of that.

    There is more trust required with a Shufflemaster though. When you see a manual shuffle on the table you know that shoe is random.

    When you play a Shufflemaster you are trusting the machine is randomly shuffling. Just like when you play an RNG game you're trusting the computer program to generate a random outcome.
    Ok. Your opinion counts. Thanks

    Now dealers working at this table are not allowed to talk to visitors who are not playing (before place is taken, player is just a visitor). I think they can make some more improvements: players with balance less than minimum bet (1000 $,€,£ and so on) should not be even able to join with some message : "You are too poor and needy for VIP Diamond Blackjack". And tired dealers will finally have some time to sleep while sitting there alone. Also they should think about some alarm sound (the louder - the better) every time new player joins .
    Last edited by The Legend; 04-30-2015 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD
    Just went to check out (not play) this table...not available when I logged in at 888, Unibet, WH or Betvictor.
    Is it:
    • only visible/available to players with a balance > £€1k
    As a rule of thumb LD Evolution casinos don't hide tables from players dependant on account balance or VIP status.

    Unlike platforms such as Playtech who hide regular tables, and private tables even from that casino's players. Seemingly almost for any reason including if somebody at the studio so wishes it through malice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD
    No doubt Diamond VIP is a strategy to make sure there are always seats available for the high rollers that do like to bet in the multiple 000's.

    Even the red VIP tables, particularly those with lower min's, tend to get a bit crowded sometimes and it stands to reason Evolution and the operators want to avoid £50 a hand players preventing £3K a hand players from being able to take a seat.

    Another grey, high limit generic blackjack table is now open at Evolution.


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    Fortune VIP
    Last edited by Unclefester; 04-21-2016 at 01:03 PM.

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    Table minimum around casinos is typically £/€250 (as with the other grey 'Platinum' table)

    It would seem the high limit tables are indeed a success at Evolution.

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    2 Pictures made in February 2015 (1 minute difference):

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    At the first picture (VIP H) we can see a table behind dealer's left shoulder. Closer look shows it's VIP F ...


    And another picture wich was made from VIP H few minutes ago...

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    The moral of this fable is: Fortune VIP Blackjack is located at the same place instead of VIP F.

    P.S. Such a useful information. How could you live without that
    Last edited by The Legend; 07-09-2015 at 08:29 PM.

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    It would seem the high limit tables are indeed a success at Evolution.

    Evolution have opened another high limit blackjack table.


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    The new Grand VIP table comes with a £/€500 minimum.

    Table is in the space vacated by the now closed red baccarat table.

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    The high limit Grand & Fortune VIP blackjack tables at Evolution have a new secluded studio setting utilising the baccarat dealers/styling.

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