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    Getting good penetration

    Talking about blackjack of course and how far into a shoe the deal goes.

    The deeper into the shoe, the more chance card counters have to exploit a positive running count.

    Best case scenario is of course a game where the shoe is completely dealt until the last card.

    Not surprisingly, you have a hard time finding a live casino that does this. The typical policy, and that employed by the major platforms is re-shuffle mid shoe.

    In the interests of identifying live blackjack tables offering players better penetration than this, thought it worth starting this thread (thanks to member bvlgari for the bringing this issue up via PM)

    SO...if you come across a table where MORE THAN HALF of the shoe is dealt (the deeper the better), let us know here!
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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    by the way, best I ever came across was the old GGL tables at 5Dimes...

    https://www.livedealer.org/blog/2010...s-interesting/

    claimed shuffle policy was:
    After a shuffle is completed, all decks will be cut and the yellow cut card will be placed at a depth of approximately 75% of the [6 deck] shoe
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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    Notwithstanding the double ententre thread ...

    Another factor being burnt cards.

    Considering the number of cards Playtech burns, less cards in theory are shown/dealt to players. Compared with somewhere like Evolution who don't burn cards.

    This also increases the frequency of shoe changes/shuffles at Playtech and waiting for a shuffler to arrive.

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    Another factor being burnt cards.
    Good point. So we're on the hunt for:
    1. good shoe penetration;
    2. preferably no card burning
    'coz good old fashioned real random beats simulated random any day

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